{"id":94952,"date":"2019-06-12T09:34:04","date_gmt":"2019-06-12T07:34:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/?p=94952"},"modified":"2019-11-07T00:32:44","modified_gmt":"2019-11-06T23:32:44","slug":"nadia-samdani-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/2019\/06\/12\/nadia-samdani-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"An interview with Nadia Samdani"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>International art collectors for more than a decade, Rajeeb and Nadia Samdani have made a major impact on the South Asian art scene with the establishment of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.samdani.com.bd\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Samdani Art Foundation<\/a> in Bangladesh in 2011, the founding of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dhakaartsummit.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Dhaka Art Summit<\/a> there in 2012 and through their loans and donations of works from the collection to important institutions and art biennials around the world. Currently constructing an art centre, artists\u2019 residency and sculpture park (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/2017\/06\/23\/top-sculpture-parks-europe\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">click here to discover our selection of sculpture parks in Europe<\/a>) in Northeastern Bangladesh while also planning the next summit for 2020, Nadia Samdani took time out of her busy schedule to sit down with Conceptual Fine Arts to discuss the collection, the summit, the new building and the foundation\u2019s philanthropy and goals.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94954\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94954\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/1.-Nadia-and-Rajeeb-Samdani-Photography-by-Noor-Photoface-Courtesy-the-Samdani-Art-Foundation-640x431.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"431\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Nadia and Rajeeb Samdani. Photography by Noor Photoface. Courtesy of the Samdani Art Foundation<\/p><\/div>\n<p>When did you first become interested in art?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> I come from a collector family, thus my interest has been there since childhood.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p>How did you start collecting?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> As I had interest and was familiar with a lot of Bangladeshi modernists when I was young I started collecting work that was familiar, things I had seen at my parents\u2019 home. Rajeeb and I have been collecting for more than 10 years now.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94957\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94957\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/2.-Fabricated-Fractures-installation-view_Photography-by-Musthafa-Aboobacker-640x428.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"428\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em>, installation view. Photography by Musthafa Aboobacker<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Do you remember the first piece of art that you bought?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> Yes, it was a watercolor by the Bangladeshi modernist SM Sultan.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s the range of your interest\u2014from antiquities to contemporary, or is it more specific?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> I have a wide range of interests, but recently it has been focused on contemporary art.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Are there any artists that you collect in depth?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> There are a few. When we discover artists that really interest us, especially the young contemporary ones, we like to collect a whole body of their work. It\u2019s nice to be able to see the artist\u2019s journey\u2014from where it started to how it\u2019s progressing. For example, we heavily collect Ayesha Sultana\u2019s work, and there are a couple more artists that we also collect in depth.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> Bangladesh is still a relatively new country. It only achieved independence in 1971, but before that it was part of Pakistan. The modern art that we are collecting was produced before our independence\u2014work produced before the 1970s. We have a lot of works from the 1950s and \u201860s, which are very hard to get. Most collections of these artists\u2019 works are in Pakistan. They are difficult to find. The collectors do not want to let them go. It takes years of negotiation to get collectors to sell them, but a lot of the older collectors in Pakistan are recognizing that it\u2019s better if the works go to us. They know that the works will be better appreciated as part of the Samdani Art Foundation\u2019s collection.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94958\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94958\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/3.-Fabricated-Fractures-installation-view_Photography-by-Musthafa-Aboobacker-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em>, installation view. Photography by Musthafa Aboobacker<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Do you discuss your acquisitions with one another and your curator before collecting or do you sometimes act spontaneously?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> It happens both ways. It is usually through discussion, but it can be spontaneous. The collection is quite diverse, with some things being quite strategic. For example, if we are trying to build a certain body of work that fits into a particular theme or area of the collection, we discuss and research where works are available. Yet, a lot of it can also be impulse buying, where we see it, we love it and immediately acquire it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>When did you establish you\u2019re the Samdani Art Foundation and why did you create it?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> The foundation, which supports South Asian art, was established in 2011, but we had already been collecting with it in mind. We had also been supporting artists, but in smaller ways that was not as organized. We decided that we wanted to do it properly and officially, which is how the idea for the foundation was born. The plan, the calendar and events, such as the Dhaka Art Summit, were established with it.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94959\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94959\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/4.-Fabricated-Fractures-installation-view4_Photography-by-Musthafa-Aboobacker-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em>, installation view. Photography by Musthafa Aboobacker<\/p><\/div>\n<p>How many works of art are there in the foundation\u2019s collection?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> There are more than 2000 works of art in the collection. It consists of works that Rajeeb and I acquired over the past several years and works that I inherited from my family.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Where do you exhibit these works?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> In exhibitions around the world and at the summits, but some of the works from the collection will soon be exhibited in our new new space, Srihatta \u2013 Samdani Art Centre and Sculpture Park in the Northeastern part of Bangladesh. We have about 105 acres of land and are building an art centre, a residency space and a sculpture park. We\u2019re working with the Bangladeshi architect Kashef Chowdhury, who won the 2016 Aga Khan Award for Architecture. It will open in stages<\/em>.<em> There\u2019s a lot of construction to be done, but it\u2019s all in progress. It will be a place for art, but also a hub for cultural thought and discussion.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Is the collection just art or does it also include architecture and design?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> It\u2019s mostly art, but there are some other things, too. We have a lot of film.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94960\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94960\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/5.-Fabricated-Fractures-installation-view5_Photography-by-Musthafa-Aboobacker-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"Fabricated Fractures, installation view. Photography by Musthafa Aboobacker\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em>, installation view. Photography by Musthafa Aboobacker<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Do you commission work?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> Yes, we commission a lot of work. For example, because Bangladesh\u2019s has a high import duty we are commissioning works for the sculpture park. We\u2019ve invited the artists to visit the site, research materials and then come up with a proposal. It\u2019s actually more interesting to do it this way. We don\u2019t want to have work that has been seen in other places, but it has to make sense with the space. A lot of the artists are working with the local communities. For the last summit the Polish artist Pawel Althamer came with his team and collaborated with patients from a rehabilitation center, as well as women and children from the village.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Do you lend or donate works to museums?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> We recently donated work by Rashid Choudhury to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York and Tate in London and have lent work to a number of international museums and biennials.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Do you also have a private collection?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> All of the works in the collection are part of the foundation.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What motivated you to found the Dhaka Art Summit?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> We don\u2019t have any art museums or major galleries in Bangladesh. The art infrastructure is inadequate. Because we are friends with so many Bangladeshi artists we thought that they needed this kind of structure and support. It had become a duty for us. We felt that we needed to do this for our artists and our country. There are so many talented artists, but they don\u2019t have a platform for their work. <\/em><em>You cannot call one curator and ask them to visit 10 artists\u2019 homes. That\u2019s why we decided to create this platform and invite the world to come and see them. More than 300,000 local people and 1,200 visitors came for the nine-day summit. It\u2019s not just art lovers. It\u2019s people from all walks of life that are experiencing forms of art\u2014like performance, installation and video\u2014they have never ever seen. We even invite school children, and not just the privileged ones. We have the middle-income and underprivileged\u00a0school children, too. It\u2019s huge for them to have this kind of exposure.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94961\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94961\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/6.-Ayesha-Jatoi\u2019s-Residue-performance_Opening-of-Fabricated-Fractures-in-Concrete-courtesy-Alserkal-and-Samdani-Art-Foundation-credit-Tara-Atkinson-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ayesha Jatoi\u2019s Residue performance. Opening of <em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em> at Concrete. Courtesy Alserkal and Samdani Art Foundation. Credit Tara Atkinson<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What is the mission of the Dhaka Art Summit and what kind of things are presented?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> It\u2019s a biennial event that\u2019s a platform for South Asian art and artists. We invite curators from different institutions to work with us for two years and put up a show. We support their research across South Asia to organize the show and then they curate it for us. We do it in partnership with the government at the Bangladesh Shilpakala Academy. It\u2019s an un-ticketed event that\u2019s free of cost and open to the public. We work with curators from the Tate, Pompidou and the Met, as well as other institutions, so they are the kind of quality shows that you would see anyplace else in the world. It basically gives the Bangladeshi public a chance to come and see everything under one roof. There are curated shows, performances, films and scholarly talks. It\u2019s like an open school, with 90 events and workshops, which anyone and everyone can attend.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Does the foundation give out awards?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> Yes, we present the Samdani Art Award to emerging Bangladeshi artists who are between 22 and 40 years of age. It\u2019s an open call. We just short-listed our next year\u2019s award, which is a three-month residency at the Delfina Foundation in the UK. And in 2017 we presented our first Samdani Architecture Award to create the education pavilion in the Summit. It was open to third and fourth year architecture students. We gave the specifications and a budget and got proposals for the structure.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94962\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94962\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/7.-Reetu-Sattar-Harano-Sur-Lost-Tune-performance_Opening-of-Fabricated-Fractures-in-Concrete-courtesy-Alserkal-and-Samdani-Art-Foundation-credit-Tara-Atkinson-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reetu Sattar, <em>Harano Sur (Lost Tune)<\/em>, performance. Opening of <em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em> at Concrete. Courtesy Alserkal and Samdani Art Foundation. Credit Tara Atkinson<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Are you and Rajeeb on the committees of museums?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> Yes, we are quite heavily involved with the Tate, where we are founding members of the Tate South Asian Arts Council and the Tate International Council. We\u2019re on the founders\u2019 committee of the Harvard Arts Council and on other advisory committees.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>What can you tell us about the collection exhibit at Concrete at Alserkal Avenue in Dubai?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> <\/em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<em>, which was curated by our artistic director Diana Campbell Betancourt, presented a number of works that were shown in the past Dhaka Art Summits. The works in the exhibition addressed issues of land, borders, nations, territories, migration and religion. We wanted to present the show in Dubai because it\u2019s a hub for South Asians, with 70% of the population of Dubai coming from the region.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94963\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94963\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/8.-Reetu-Sattar-Harano-Sur-Lost-Tune-performance_Opening-of-Fabricated-Fractures-in-Concrete-courtesy-Alserkal-and-Samdani-Art-Foundation-credit-Tara-Atkinson-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Reetu Sattar, <em>Harano Sur (Lost Tune)<\/em>, performance. Opening of <em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em> at Concrete. Courtesy Alserkal and Samdani Art Foundation. Credit Tara Atkinson<\/p><\/div>\n<p>What do you hope all of your art and design efforts will inspire?<\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #ffffff;\">Nadia Samdani:<\/span> We\u2019ve been collecting for a long time and traveling to international fairs and biennials, but we hardly see the presence of artists from Bangladesh. When we meet people they ask what the art scene is like and what are the artists doing in our country. We sometimes feel embarrassed that no one knows what wonderful artists we have. <\/em>(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/2019\/03\/26\/srijon-chowdhury\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a> our essay on Srijon Chowdhury)<em> We don\u2019t want to be ignored anymore. We want the presence of Bangladeshi art to be everywhere. The artists are really good\u2014they just need to be discovered.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_94964\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-94964\" src=\"https:\/\/www.conceptualfinearts.com\/cfa\/CFA-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/9.-Joydeb-Roaja-performance_Opening-of-Fabricated-Fractures-in-Concrete-courtesy-Alserkal-and-Samdani-Art-Foundation-credit-Tara-Atkinson-640x427.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" \/><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joydeb Roaja performance . Opening of <em>Fabric(ated) Fractures<\/em> at Concrete. Courtesy Alserkal and Samdani Art Foundation. Credit Tara Atkinson<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nadia Samdani and her husband Rajeeb are some of Bangladesh top art philanthropists and collectors. 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